Old and incorrectly tagged domains

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sammop

Hi 

When Going through the domain tagging bit in Community, if you look through the "pornography" category there are absolutely loads of domains that were tagged back as far as 2008 and loads of domains that have been incorrectly tagged (i.e. I've seen some for sites such as the BBC; New York Times; IBM; various financial organisations etc etc - these can't ALL be mistakes!)

... I have the gut feeling that in the early days of OpenDNS some people may have been consciously mis-tagging sites in an effort to discredit the whole idea, but I may be wrong.

Anyway, many of these old domains now don't exist, and if they are genuine, after 6 or 7 years of no further tags I question how offensive they really are.

So, would it be an idea to clean up some of this old stuff that probably won't ever get decided upon one way or the other? They make the back-log intimidatingly large and reduce the chances of anyone making a decision on them.

Sam

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    rotblitz

    Well, although they don't clog up my database (I don't have a related database), it would make sense to purge this old stuff.

    Btw, you're not the first person proposing this...
    You better look for the other related threads to vote them up.  This thread has currently zero votes, even not yours.  I'll start with mine then...
    Votes is all which counts for OpenDNS to review ideas.

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    sammop

    Thanks for that... I didn't know you could upvote your own post.

    I'll do a search for other threads and see what comes up.

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    rotblitz

    You still didn't vote up on your own idea.

    Also, here is nothing about URLs, just about domain names.  These are two different things, and DNS knows only about domains, never about URLs which are called URI nowadays anyway.

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    sammop

    Haha, OK, I'm old-school and I still think of URLs (URIs) and Domains as different words for the same thing but obviously I'm not up with it....

    I've updated the post and changed URLs to Domains so there's no confusion and hopefully I've upvoted it now.

    S

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    rotblitz

    Alright!  ;-)

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    sammop

    by the way, I did a Google search on URI and URL and it seems they're not strictly the same thing..

    From http://www.baeldung.com/java-url-vs-uri

    The difference between them is straightforward after knowing their definitions:

    • Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) − a sequence of characters that allows the complete identification of any abstract or physical resource
    • Uniform Resource Locator (URL) − a subset of URI that, in addition to identifying where a resource is available, describes the primary mechanism to access it

    Now we can conclude that every URL is a URI, but the opposite is not true...

    but then, from https://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/19101/what-is-the-difference-between-a-uri-and-a-url.....

    The W3C realized that there is a ton of confusion about this. They issued a URI clarification document that says that it is now OK to use the terms URL and URI interchangeably (to mean URI).

    So, like most things in the IT world, any good question has more than one correct answer (I've been in IT all my working life and this sort of thing never ceases to exasperate me).

    :-/

     

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    rotblitz

    Very well researched!  But not very relevant for OpenDNS matters which deals with domains / hostnames / server names only.  These must be part of an absolute URL/URI, but are not required with a relative URL/URI.
    https://kb.iu.edu/d/abwp
    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/ado/guide/data/absolute-and-relative-urls
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Resource_Identifier

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    aurasphere0123456789

    I vote on older domains. Especially in the Gambling category.

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    aurasphere0123456789

    And Health and Fitness

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    opendns2123456789

    Regarding older domains, one thing that kills me are all the sites that have significant porn that didn't when they were rated.  Because porn is the bread and butter of the filtering demand.  So if you were a school, you may want to know that twitter has a video-only search where you don't even have to log in and can be in incognito mode and still find unlimited porn videos; but when twitter was rated, that was ridiculous, as it was an alphanumeric-text site for flip-phones and candy bars.  YouTube used to be very strict about graphic sex and now kinda' dances around it, refusing to block foreign films, etc., so there's no way to block that in your average school.  Or think of sites that expire and then turn into porn sites.  It's not that opendns wouldn't include some of these sites as having Nudity or Porn or whatever in 2018; it's that they were voted on already in 2006 and the ratings never expire or are reviewed.

    My real recommendation is not that ratings expire, but that all rankings are occasionally thrown back into the voting system, maybe only for 1 vote, whatever the statisticians say, and that one vote, if it agrees with the status quo, whitelists the site for another year.  But having them never reviewed again leaves a bunch of cases like twitter, that were benign in 2006 and now are 95% benign but 5% porn, and every school in America can access them unless their IT guy is the type of guy who knows where 15 year olds post their porn (and again that's problematic.)

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