setup with synology dns (internal) and dhcp with Netgear for parental control

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freddyvangeel

June 10, 2015 09:16

Hi,

My question is in setup above, with a synology for dhcp en internal dns (rather large network) to set up parental control with netgear.

before i buy one, i'd like to confirm that all devices in lan can have a custom filter.

so my own pc, tablet, smartphone and sonos devices are not filtered, my kids are heavily filtered, and my wife even more ;)

how is this done? by mac - address?

thanks, 

super happy with opendns, but i need more controle..

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  rotblitz June 10, 2015 10:20

  Duplicate of https://support.opendns.com/entries/68781274

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  freddyvangeel June 10, 2015 10:28

  The link you sent is of my own topic

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  rotblitz June 10, 2015 10:41

  Yes, of your duplicate topic.

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  rotblitz June 10, 2015 16:47

  Oops, some admin deleted the duplicate thread with my answer.  Hoping you got a chance to read it, maybe via e-mail...

  (My answer was pretty comprehensive, so if you got it via e-mail, you may post it here for reference.  I'm too lazy to write all again...)

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  freddyvangeel June 11, 2015 08:11

  this was your reply:

  • rotblitz
    

     

    Only in case you're talking about Netgear Live Parental Controls:

    "i'd like to confirm that all devices in lan can have a custom filter... how is this done? by mac - address?"

    No, the differentiation is not based on end user devices, but based on bypass account user IDs.  You can use the same bypass accounts on most devices.

    Here's the instruction guide from Netgear: 
    http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25687/ 
    You'll have to install Netgear Genie or the Netgear User Utility (https://www.opendns.com/downloads/) on the devices where you intend to login with your bypass accounts.

    "synology dns (internal) and dhcp"

    Is it this?  https://www.synology.com/en-global/knowledgebase/tutorials/584 
    With Netgear LPC you still can configure internal name resolution with this DNS server, but the DNS forwarding to the outside world has to go to the LAN IP address of your router.  Any other DNS forwarding attempts may fail.

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  freddyvangeel June 11, 2015 08:12

  the answer is clear, but how does this work with devices that have no possibility to log in?

  like ip camera's, my nas'es, sonosses and so on?

  they're not to be filtered, but need internet access.

  thanks again

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  freddyvangeel June 11, 2015 08:37

  reading info behind the link i understand that all traffic is filtered, and exceptions made by login.

  probably will do the trick.

  is it possible to import settings already made in opendns dashboard?

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  rotblitz June 11, 2015 11:30

  Many thanks for posting my answer here!

  "the answer is clear, but how does this work with devices that have no possibility to log in?
    like ip camera's, my nas'es, sonosses and so on?
    they're not to be filtered, but need internet access."

  I'm afraid this is not possible behind a Netgear LPC router.  Your OpenDNS LPC default settings will take effect without logging into a bypass account.

  "is it possible to import settings already made in opendns dashboard?"

  What dashboard?  Your OpenDNS LPC dashboard is only at https://netgear.opendns.com/ and no longer at https://dashboard.opendns.com/.  You cannot "import" settings from somewhere else to any of those two dashboards or from the one to the other.

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  freddyvangeel June 16, 2015 08:59

  so, i've setup the whole lan with configuration above.

  now i've 2 questions, if i may:

  
  1 what to do with the "old" opendns account?
  2 users are still able to manually set dns to 8.8.8.8 and bypass lpc. i hoped this was not the case.. (or did i do something wrong?)

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  mattwilson9090 June 16, 2015 09:45

  1) you need to delete the network and settings on the regular OpenDNS account

  2) If users have administrator access to their computers they can change and modify anything on it, including DNS settings for that device ........... If you don't want them changing that you need to reduce their permissions from administrator

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  freddyvangeel June 16, 2015 11:23

  2 is not a solution. there will always be a way to bypass.

  the way i fixed it is to block dns service to wan on the router. problem fixed.

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  rotblitz June 16, 2015 15:28

  "users are still able to manually set dns to 8.8.8.8 and bypass lpc."

  Nope.  If you read my answer above again:
  I'm afraid this is not possible behind a Netgear LPC router.  Your OpenDNS LPC default settings will take effect without logging into a bypass account.

  I said this because if you have LPC enabled, then changing to different DNS settings on the end user devices should block DNS generally.  You shouldn't need to care about.  If your experience is different, then it's a new firmware glitch by Netgear, most likely specific to your router model and firmware version.

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