Open DNS should host its own training videos and not use YouTube

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    rotblitz

    Is it this what you're looking for? http://www.opendns.com/support/videos

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    lesd

    Yes and no.  

    Yes - those look very useful.  

    No - in that what triggered my comment was coming across a page 

    http://blog.opendns.com/2013/02/22/umbrella-product-updatewhitelist-only-mode-feature/

    which said "For more info on how you can set up and use the Whitelist-Only feature, watch the video explaining the settings and features." where the link pointed to 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6tUmzHR7xo

    so I assumed all the videos were on YouTube.

    Thanks for the link.

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    rotblitz

    Then I understand what you mean. But there are more such "conflicts" , beside referencing:a YouTube video:

    OpenDNS operate own pages and content at least on Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and Github. They further operate own domains like dnscrypt.org, phishtank.com, umbrella.com dnsomatic.com and possibly more. Shouldn't they do this, because someone could have blocked such sites?

    Therefore I disagree that they shouldn't keep everything at opendns.com. If you decide to block anything, **you** have to carry all consequences out of this decision, not OpenDNS, and not anybody else. That's life!

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    lesd

    I take your point but I think you are pushing what I said beyond what was intended.

    I think you would agree that if OpenDNS hosted a training video on a porn site because it was easy and free to do so, then they would not be doing themselves a favour, simply because it would not reach the intended audience.

    Youtube is a site that I believe to be heavily blocked by many companies and individuals.  As such I do not think it is helpful to the business of OpenDNS to host training videos on Youtube.  And indeed if I were running a business and wanted to post some useful information for the benefit of my clients I would most certainly not post it to a site like Facebook and Twitter which I consider 'social' sites subject to blocking by many.

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    rotblitz

    "if OpenDNS hosted a training video on a porn site"

    LOL, that is a non-applicable example, isn't it? YouTube is not a porn site. Do you have better examples?
    Btw, there are many training videos on YouTube, of every kind, official and inofficial ones, even special sections for students. This is one of the things making YouTube so valuable.

    "Youtube is a site that I believe to be heavily blocked by many companies and individuals."

    Could be, or even not, but merely because it eats up so much bandwidth, and maybe time, as with any videos, including OpenDNS. If you don't want videos on your network, don't claim for it with OpenDNS...
    You either get videos, or you don't want and don't get them.

    "subject to blocking by many."

    Maybe at least by you. So take the consequences - every. Btw, I'm just a user like you, not staff, just for the sake of clarity.

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    lesd

    I have been a user and fan of OpenDNS since its inception and I just think that it it does not make business sense to host anything anywhere where it is likely to get blocked.  A company in the business of blocking sites should be all the more aware of that.

    We do block YouTube and others here and there have indeed been companies that have failed to get my custom because essential information was hosted on a site that I could not reach.

    However, I do take your points that life is getting more and more complex and interlinked and everyone has to understand the consequences of the choices they make.

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    rotblitz

    "life is getting more and more complex and interlinked and everyone has to understand the consequences of the choices they make."

    That's very well formulated now! :)

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    cervezafria

    2¢... YouTube hosting makes sense... and it's not at all about being cheap. Many users seek out Youtube for "how to" videos. Maybe you're trying to fix a troublesome appliance, replace a sink, or troubleshoot your PC. If someone is experiencing DNS problems, it's possible the OpenDNS videos will be returned in a DNS related query, exposing this service to users who might be completely unaware that OpenDNS exists. 

    Yes, there's a lot of junk on Youtube... there's stuff on there that I don't want in my home, which provides an opportunity to teach "self-control" to users on my network. But there is much helpful material as well. Just this week I found a series of videos that gave me techniques to fill in paint chipped areas on my car. Earlier this month, I solved a problem with my washing machine that wouldn't pump out the wash solution. A few month ago I replace a magnetron in my microwave. None of these would I have been able to perform without the assistance of Youtube. 

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    thanks_opendns

    YOU TUBE IS A PORN SITE but it is true, if you want to see the help videos then you need to find another way to do this.  I hate facebook also but this is the world we live in today.  As I have heard, if you have youtube and facebook, then you have all the porn you need. OpenDNS cannot block the big users because there would be nothing(very little) left(everyone did okay without youtube, facebook etc) but my voting is done by not using them, very little or not at all. My personal choice is to block Facebook and youtube with WOT.  When I want to use youtube, then I just unblock it temporarily. 

    People who are tech savvy can be the next millionaires if they look at what people are asking for but does not exist, and create the product.  Just these forums can point to a new start-up business that competes with the big sites that cannot or will not police themselves.  (ie facebook and youtube in this list).  AND COULD CHANGE THE FACE OF THE UNCONTROLLED WORLD OF THE INTERNET. 

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    cervezafria

    Most cities have porn sites... "adult" book stores, movie houses, prostitutes, strip clubs... You don't block the roadway leading into the city to avoid these places. You take personal responsibility for yourself and your family, through values and discernment.

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    rotblitz

    "YOU TUBE IS A PORN SITE"

    LOL, and the parliament is a swinger club?  I think this happens in your mind only, not in reality.

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    thanks_opendns

    LOL, no but people speak out and vote and try to make changes.  My right and your right to insult, thats okay.  More violence exists closer to the porn clubs.  The internet is not the parliament but it is an unregulated world.  Put your kids out on the street and tell them to be careful.  Yes we do not block streets so why think giving these adult sites the right to drive up to your children and tell your children to have discernment.  I would LOL but it is not funny.  All children are curious.  Why do you not also get on facebook and really look around,  or would you like me to send you some links.  I really do not want to go on facebook again to do this.  I do not talk out of ignorance. 

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    cervezafria

    "why think giving these adult sites the right to drive up to your children"

    WOW. That's an awesome system you must have. I actually must click a link, or type in an http address to load a page. Here's a suggestion... unplug the internet. Novel huh? If it's that bad, and you can't control it, get it out of your home, your phones, and your lives.

    Even if OpenDNS bent over and added all these filters you dream of, it would take seconds for a user on your network, to hurdle past all the filters. It's really quite easy. If you think OpenDNS is going to do parenting for you, you have already failed as a parent.

    And tell us again how much you paid for this service....

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