OpenDNS for Android devices

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    cobalt-phoenix

    ...but it is clearly advertised on the Umbrella product pages that only Windows, Mac OS X and iOS are supported with "agents".  If you want to use it on Android devices, why did you purchase Umbrella?

    No matter, you could still use Linux, Android and other OSes the "normal" way with Umbrella within your networks.

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    karlbond
    Your web is not clear at all. Find product details and prices is a bit hard. I am sure that is clearly advertised but i do not find it. Any case. Actually umbrella is a poor solution to my target customers. We want to protect childs and most of them have android devices. Definetly we have to find other solution on market.
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    cobalt-phoenix

    "Your web is not clear at all."

    You don't know my "web", do you?  I'm an OpenDNS user, not staff.

    "I am sure that is clearly advertised but i do not find it."

    Here you go: https://www.opendns.com/enterprise-security/solutions/off-network-coverage/
    This is linked from https://www.opendns.com/enterprise-security/threat-enforcement/packages/ (mobile users or remote offices).

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    mattwilson9090

    So if you couldn't find clear product details concerning a security product, why did you buy it in the first place?

    I suggest you contact OpenDNS sales and see if they will cancel your subscription and refund your money. Otherwise count the money spent as a lesson learned and thoroughly vet the next security product you buy.

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    timbero

    The decision not to support Android cannot be based on potential market - Android accounts for 82% of the global smartphone market, according to IDC - 

    http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp

     

    Surely it's not that hard to justify developing a mobile app that will expose you to a market that large, guys?

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    laynerd

    I don't think it has anything to do with Android market share. I think their target demographic is corporate accounts, and the iOS client hasn't been widely used by corporate customers due to privacy concerns in a BYOD space. That's why they abandoned Android development. I think it's silly, but the reality is the iOS client probably cost more to develop and support than it has made them. It's super frustrating since they promised they were going to deliver an Android client, but there it is.

    I will say that I expect the CIsco buyout will likely result in an Android client being developed, even if it is still lower on their priority list. I was invited to be a part of their survey team who reviews upcoming developments and I was excited because I thought maybe they'd be bringing some cool things down the pipe, but instead, all of the surveys have been about new design and flow development on the dashboard. The fact that a dashboard redesign is more important than an Android client doesn't bode well for those of us who've been waiting for some movement on this.

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    lipiecki

    That's a pity that OpenDNS it's not willing to implement it's own android app. There are apps which allows to setup any DNS service to use, but are they worth to trust? Not sure. I would have more confidence in OpenDNS app, so it's said that you just chose not to support Android devices. I understand this as a business decision made some time ago, but maybe it's time to revise this idea? Android market is bigger and bigger even in USA, not to mention that there is world outside ;-) where Android is much more popular then iOS mobile devices. Imho that's a gap which should be filled by such reliable company like OpenDNS.

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    rotblitz

    You should always check the details before you buy something.  Didn't know?  Afterwards it is almost too late.

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    dnsalunebis

    I think that's not the best approach.
    For example, in Europe many applications are being migrated / adapted for Android, even in corporate clients, and more and more GSM connections are used to support Customers in a business approach.
    OpenDNS is missing this train of technological innovation.

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    lipiecki (Edited )

    @rotblitz - why do you assume I bought service without reading the scope? I thought this is a place to share ideas from customers and this is what I did. I think that OpenDNS should create android app. That's all. I'm not complaining, I just agree with the idea with many other customers. Now it's product owner decision what to do with it.

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    rotblitz

    My response was landing in "Pending Approval", so posting as screen shot:

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    lipiecki

    Thank you @rotblitz for your feedback.

    I will try to clarify why I need Android app:

     

    I do not have any issue to setup Open DNS as default DNS for Wi-Fi connection in my mobile phone or in my home router.
    It works perfectly.

    My question is how to use OpenDNS when I'm connected by AT&T, T-Mobile or other voice, sms and Internet provider when I have non rooted Android device? There is no configuration option to setup your favourite DNS provider.

    There are apps which solved this issue, but I would prefer to use OpenDNS app than from other not well known vendor.

    Is my clarification clear enough?

    Of course if there is other solution than app it will be more than welcome by me :-)

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    rotblitz

    I see now where your misunderstanding is.  OpenDNS is a service to be used within networks you own, not for your devices in other networks.  And this is valid not only for Android, but for everything.

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    dnsalunebis

    @rotblitz

    Thanks for the statement you made in the image:

    "So I really do not understand what you, dnsalunebis and others are requesting here"

    It's very simple!
    Many of us have already noticed that Android (and other Operating Systems - OS) sometimes use protocol 53 (DNS) without respecting the definitions introduced, and if there is no application that does the blocking / regulation of the protocol, everything we are talking about is in vain.

    "lipiecki", defined the problem very well!
    I believe that many of us will be able to deal with this issue in the networks we have.

    But then, what is the "OpendDNS Family Shield" Service, if it does not close the DNS protocol to the OpenDNS IPs?

    In these cases (and possibly in other scenarios), it would be great if OpenDNS had an application for different OS's, only to block all requests to protocol 53 that were different from those used by OpenDNS.

    Whenever this idea is addressed, the answers are always directed towards the user's (in)ability to technically apply the solutions, when the focus is on the use / abuse of the DNS protocol by the OS's and some applications.

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    rotblitz

    All fine, but what you're looking for is not a service being offered by OpenDNS.  Their service is purely in the cloud, and you're looking for locally running software.  This is out of scope.  It is merely and traditionally an option for companies supplying Antivirus and Firewall pieces of software.

    "But then, what is the "OpendDNS Family Shield" Service, if it does not close the DNS protocol to the OpenDNS IPs?"

    Again, you misunderstood the purpose.  FamilyShield is a "set and forget" configuration for people who do not want to manage their dashboard but still want the filtering being offered when using the FamilyShield addresses - within networks they own, of course.

    Again, OpenDNS is a cloud service to be used within networks you own, not for your devices in other networks.  It cannot cover any other purpose.

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    laynerogers

    As usual, rotblitz, you're making inaccurate claims on behalf of OpenDNS as to the purpose of their products. The entire purpose of the OpenDNS Umbrella product is to do exactly what you claim is not the point of OpenDNS—namely, to provide a user customized DNS experience on networks you don't own through the use of the Umbrella client on your devices. Umbrella isn't a network product, it's a device-based product. There is a custom Umbrella client for OS X, Windows, and iOS, but there isn't one for Android. We're not asking OpenDNS to do something different from what they already do, we were asking them to do something on Android that they do on every other major platform.

    The real reason they haven't developed an Umbrella client for Android is that the iOS client isn't widely used because there is low demand for DNS MDM in the increasingly BYOD space, so developing another poorly utilized client is low on the priority list, particularly when you consider the fact that Android has better options for DNS routing than iOS without the need for configuration profiles and MDM.

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    rotblitz (Edited )

    @laynerogers 

    I see now where your misunderstanding is.  I was not talking about Cisco Umbrella, in no way, but solely about OpenDNS, the services for home and free use.  Sure, if you meant Umbrella, then an Android agent would be desirable.

    Think about, you're here in the OpenDNS forum, not in the Umbrella forum.  So everything posted here not explicitly mentioning Umbrella is automatically treated as OpenDNS, of course.

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    laynerogers

    Except that when this conversation started, Cisco wasn't in the picture, and Umbrella was (as it still kind of is) primarily a means for using OpenDNS on any device on any network. There wasn't even a separate forum for Umbrella feature requests. Umbrella is the culmination of OpenDNS, not a side thing. Just because you still use OpenDNS like you did five years ago doesn't mean that's what everyone else is doing, including the company under Cisco.

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    rotblitz

    Yes, times have changed, and you cannot know what I'm doing, btw since 10 years, not since 5.  ;-)

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    sebastien.meunier

    4 years later, Still waiting... LOL 

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    rotblitz (Edited )

    ...but you see how the idea was being flagged by OpenDNS: Not planned

    So, wait for another 40 years...

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    rhawk301

    bump to 2019. OpenDNS now offers a Prosumer package, no DNS vpn (encrypted) product yet for mobile. But Prosumer doesn't offer network protection, just client protection on Mac/PC.

    So I want to protect my network using the OpenDNS DNS servers from my network, just like the current free service, but with the DNS VPN options, plus protect like 2-5 computers in the home network, plus 10 mobile devices all at once from the same console.

    This sounds like an Umbrella Professional, but its not. Umbrella Roaming options only seem to be compatible with the AnyConnect true VPN product and the advanced firewall for SMB to larger business needs.

    So I see several people get "stuck" on the word VPN. In reality a DNS VPN product is just encrypting your DNS traffic through standard * DNSCrypt DNS over HTTPS DNS over TLS

    How about cleanbrowsing.org http://bit.ly/2QV7AMA checking this out this week.

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    rotblitz

    cleanbrowsing.org do not provide any device specific clients. It‘s just a recursive DNS service.

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