Pornography vs. Nudity
So what is the differentiating factor between the Pornography and Nudity categories?
Is Pornography something like "Site contains images that include an unclothed breast, buttocks, or genital area that are intended to be sexually stimulating, whether actual sexual activity is taking place or not?" Must there be actual sexual activity? Do strategically placed objects move it from Pornography to Adult themes or sexuality?
I ask because I've seen sites outside the pornography tag that sure look like they're intended to be sexually stimulating. They're tagged as Nudity, but not Pornography.
Thanks for the clarification!
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"So what is the differentiating factor between the Pornography and Nudity categories?"
For US (and some other countries') citizens: none
For everybody else: they have not much in common.Nudity is the absence of clothing, not more and not less.Pornography is demonstration of sexual activity, or showing people or items for the purpose of sexual arousal or stimulation. The latter however is very subjective with no common sense about what is stimulating or not.
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In terms of Domain Tagging, the difference is defined on the Categories page:
Nudity
Sites that provide images or representations of nudity.
Pornography
Anything relating to pornography, including mild depiction, soft pornography or hard-core pornography.
In other words, it follows very closely to rotblitz's description of the difference between the 2. Pornography will almost always be tagged as Nudity, I am not aware of any cases in which there isn't some nudity, but you Rule 34 (SFW) states there would have to be. Nudity though would not be guaranteed to be tagged as Pornography. For example, artistic nudes would not be classified as Pornography, but would be classified as Nudity.
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How many votes do pornographic sites take. Sites such as nsfw_gifs.reddit have been tagged for a while. There are hundreds more, but it seems fruitless to spend my time tagging them if they will never get the votes to be moderated. Is there another solution?
I do understand I could just block those domains on my network, but this is also a community. As a former pornography addict, I sure do wish we could improve these filters for everyone wishing to block such sites.
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Tagging nsfw_gifs.reddit wouldn't have much of an effect. That Domain is simply a redirect to the appropriate reddit/r/ URL which would then not be blocked (unless you block News/Media or Forums/Message Boards.)
That said, voting on domains isn't tied to just the number of people who have voted. Our system looks at multiple factors including voter weight, % of votes for or against, etc. So It's not as simple as saying "It takes 5 votes for a domain to reach moderation."
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When reviewing all the reddit.com sites on OpenDNS, they are listed with the subdomain syntax "something.reddit.com". And those that are approved are effectively blocked. Also, when I manually block "nsfw_gifs.reddit.com" it also blocks "reddit.com/r/nsfw_gifs" automatically.
Am I missing something?
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Yes. Categorization is based on the content and purpose of the domain. The purpose of Reddit (or imgur for that matter) is not to distribute pornography. While it may have some ancillary uses for that, it's used primarily for as a Forum/Message board to distribute News and other Media. In fact, Reddit itself hosts none of the image content that you see on the site, those are generally hosted by other websites, some of which are categorized as Pornography as appropriate. Imgur is not categorized as Pornography, but Photo Sharing. You can choose to block that on your network by simply adding it to your blacklist if you feel that the content of that domain is inappropriate for you and your network.
If we did URL level filtering it would be appropriate to categorize the various subreddits/URLs (ie /r/nfl as Sports, /r/minecraft as gaming.)
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If by junk you are referring to pornography you block that category, and depending on your level of tolerance other categories such as nudity, it's up to you.
However, as a DNS based service, OpenDNS knows nothing about sites, pages, URL's, or content. It only knows about domains. So if a domain you are allowing by either whitelisting it or nor not blocking it's category, OpenDNS can do nothing about what the corresponding website displays. Case in point, if you object to the results displayed by a serach enging such as Goggle or Bing you would need to block that search engines domain, or block the search engine category and whitelist the search engines you want to allow. Some search engines also have a "safe search" capability, but they vary by site, and you would need to find out how to use it, or perhaps enforce it for your entire network. Each search engine is different so I won't go into them hear, except to say that Google does have such a feature, and it can be forced for all users of your network. You can find information for how to force that here in this forum, or by search google itself.
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