Pornography vs. Nudity

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    rotblitz

    "So what is the differentiating factor between the Pornography and Nudity categories?"

    For US (and some other countries') citizens: none
    For everybody else: they have not much in common.

    Nudity is the absence of clothing, not more and not less.Pornography is demonstration of sexual activity, or showing people or items for the purpose of sexual arousal or stimulation. The latter however is very subjective with no common sense about what is stimulating or not.

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    cervezafria

    Someone's anti-U.S. bias is showing...

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    rotblitz

    Nope. Disagreeing with an attitude is not disliking a whole nation. Don't over-interpret. ;-)

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    Brian Hartvigsen

    In terms of Domain Tagging, the difference is defined on the Categories page:

    Nudity

    Sites that provide images or representations of nudity.

    Pornography

    Anything relating to pornography, including mild depiction, soft pornography or hard-core pornography.

     

    In other words, it follows very closely to rotblitz's description of the difference between the 2.  Pornography will almost always be tagged as Nudity, I am not aware of any cases in which there isn't some nudity, but you Rule 34 (SFW) states there would have to be.  Nudity though would not be guaranteed to be tagged as Pornography.  For example, artistic nudes would not be classified as Pornography, but would be classified as Nudity.

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    bobanne

    Brian, 

    I've found several sites that were rejected for the nudity tag when there are clearly nude images on the site. For example, tcmag.com has galleries with nudity. Can this be fixed?

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    Brian Hartvigsen

    I've passed that domain for review to our moderation team.  I didn't see anything going through the first few picture sets but I'll let them dig a little deeper.

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    skildlobster

    How many votes do pornographic sites take. Sites such as nsfw_gifs.reddit have been tagged for a while. There are hundreds more, but it seems fruitless to spend my time tagging them if they will never get the votes to be moderated. Is there another solution?

    I do understand I could just block those domains on my network, but this is also a community. As a former pornography addict, I sure do wish we could improve these filters for everyone wishing to block such sites.

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    rotblitz

    No problem, that's up with also you.  Simply volunteer as a community tagging moderator.

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    Brian Hartvigsen

    Tagging nsfw_gifs.reddit wouldn't have much of an effect.  That Domain is simply a redirect to the appropriate reddit/r/ URL which would then not be blocked (unless you block News/Media or Forums/Message Boards.)

    That said, voting on domains isn't tied to just the number of people who have voted.  Our system looks at multiple factors including voter weight, % of votes for or against, etc.  So It's not as simple as saying "It takes 5 votes for a domain to reach moderation."

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    skildlobster

    We've managed to block other sub reddits. How would that sub reddit be any different?

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    skildlobster

    I realize the redirect link is reddit.com/r/nsfw_gifs

    Forgot to mention that

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    Brian Hartvigsen

    Yep, that's all I was saying, you are simply blocking a redirect, not the sub-reddit itself which would very much still be accessible.

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    skildlobster

    When reviewing all the reddit.com sites on OpenDNS, they are listed with the subdomain syntax "something.reddit.com". And those that are approved are effectively blocked. Also, when I manually block "nsfw_gifs.reddit.com" it also blocks "reddit.com/r/nsfw_gifs" automatically.

    Am I missing something? 

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    skildlobster

    Ok, so nsfw_gifs.reddit.com is now tagged pornography and the /r/ subdomain is still accessible. Obviously, my memory was incorrect so now how can we address this?

    Is there a way to appropriately tag reddit.com/r/nsfw_gifs? 

    Thanks for the responses BTW!

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    Brian Hartvigsen

    OpenDNS does not provide URL level filtering so there is no way using our system to block a specific URL.  We filter based on the requested domain name (in this case reddit.com), so you'd need to block the entire domain.

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    skildlobster

    Seems like tagging sites like imgur.com and gyfcat appropriately is the only answer then.

    Those sites most definitely have nudity and pornography. Is there a way to reverse the decision to reject "pornography" as a tag on imgur.com?

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    skildlobster

    Also, is there something wrong then with tagging reddit.com with pornography if it indeed has plenty of it? Why would that tag be rejected?

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    Brian Hartvigsen

    Yes.  Categorization is based on the content and purpose of the domain.  The purpose of Reddit (or imgur for that matter) is not to distribute pornography.  While it may have some ancillary uses for that, it's used primarily for as a Forum/Message board to distribute News and other Media.  In fact, Reddit itself hosts none of the image content that you see on the site, those are generally hosted by other websites, some of which are categorized as Pornography as appropriate.  Imgur is not categorized as Pornography, but Photo Sharing.  You can choose to block that on your network by simply adding it to your blacklist if you feel that the content of that domain is inappropriate for you and your network.

    If we did URL level filtering it would be appropriate to categorize the various subreddits/URLs (ie /r/nfl as Sports, /r/minecraft as gaming.)

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    momzie89
    How I block this kind of junk?! I've tried blocking nudity and porn, but it still shows up on google and such...
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    mattwilson9090

    If by junk you are referring to pornography you block that category, and depending on your level of tolerance other categories such as nudity, it's up to you.

    However, as a DNS based service, OpenDNS knows nothing about sites, pages, URL's, or content. It only knows about domains. So if a domain you are allowing by either whitelisting it or nor not blocking it's category, OpenDNS can do nothing about what the corresponding website displays. Case in point, if you object to the results displayed by a serach enging such as Goggle or Bing you would need to block that search engines domain, or block the search engine category and whitelist the search engines you want to allow. Some search engines also have a "safe search" capability, but they vary by site, and you would need to find out how to use it, or perhaps enforce it for your entire network. Each search engine is different so I won't go into them hear, except to say that Google does have such a feature, and it can be forced for all users of your network.  You can find information for how to force that here in this forum, or by search google itself.

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    rotblitz

    "it still shows up on google and such..."

    So, did you block "google and such"?  If something objectionable shows up there, then you must block it, of course.

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