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    magdiel1975

    Oh..just to make sure.. I can continue to use Family Shield IP along with the IP updater right?

    I don't necessarily have to use 208.67.222.222 - 208.67.220.220?

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    mattwilson9090

    That's correct, the IP Updater is used to update your dashboard's registered address. It doesn't matter if you are using the "normal" addresses or the ones for Family Shield. As Patrick said, with the Family Shield addresses you'll always be blocking that set of domains whether or not you have are using the dashboard, or have your current address registered on the dashboard. You won't be able to whitelist any domains from the FamilyShield categories, but you'll be able to blacklist additional categories, and whitelist domains that belong to those "additional" categories.

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    magdiel1975

    Awesome.. cool.. I left the Family Shield IP on the router and I am also using the dashboard with the IP updater... Im back in business..thanks again guys.

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    rotblitz

    You risk to exceed your whitelist entries.  Totally over-done.  You only need to "never block" what is being blocked by your category settings.

    "I have these as NEVER BLOCK:

    google.com     
    googlevideo.com     
    gstatic.com     
    snapchat.com     
    www.youtube.com     
    youtu.be     
    youtube-ui.l.google.com     
    youtube.com     
    youtube.no-cookie.com     
    ytimg.com
    "

    Not sure why you do all those.
    youtube.com already includes all subdomains like www.youtube.com.  No need to add subdomains.  And if you don't block the Video Sharing category, there's no need to add youtube.com at all, because this and its subdomains would not be blocked.  Same applies for youtu.be.
    https://domain.opendns.com/youtube.com  https://domain.opendns.com/youtu.be
    Also no need to add youtube.no-cookie.com, ytimg.com, gstatic.com, because these do not belong to any category, so cannot be blocked by category and do not need to be unblocked.
    youtube-ui.l.google.com and snapchat.com may not belong to categories you have blocked, so probably no need to whitelist them.  Check them.
    https://domain.opendns.com/youtube-ui.l.google.com  https://domain.opendns.com/snapchat.com

    "I just added these to never block..

    tpc.googlesyndication.com     
    mclients.googleapis.com     
    googleapis.com     
    imap.gmail.com     
    play.googleapis.com     
    ssl.google-analytics.com     
    youtube-nocookie.com
    "

    googleapis.com already includes all subdomains like mclients.googleapis.com and play.googleapis.com.  No need to add subdomains.
    Also, googleapis.com and its subdomains do not belong to any category, therefore no need to whitelist.
    https://domain.opendns.com/googleapis.com
    googlesyndication.com, google-analytics.com and their subdomains are for ad delivery and tracking only and do not need to be whitelisted, because this would not have impact on Google and YouTube.

    That said, if you want to block all search engines but Google (inc YouTube) and have no other categories blocked, you may end up with just google.com in your whitelist (never block).  If you blocked also other categories, you had to check each domain used by Google and YouTube case by case.

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    rotblitz

    Also, imap.google.com may not belong to categories you have blocked, so probably no need to whitelist it.
    https://domain.opendns.com/imap.gmail.com

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    magdiel1975

    Thanks Rotblitz..

    i will look into that once I get hom..I added theses:

    tpc.googlesyndication.com     
    mclients.googleapis.com     
    googleapis.com     
    imap.gmail.com     
    play.googleapis.com     
    ssl.google-analytics.com     
    youtube-nocookie.com

    because Youtube app was not connecting on the smartphones or TV's, but once I added those, it started working..now I am not sure which one of those was the one that unblocked the Youtube app,.. I was just to happy that everything was working that i was like.. " I don't want to touch it", lol.

    If you read a few posts back, you wrote:

    "You have to explicitly whitelist a few domains then, e.g.:
    googlevideo.com
    gstatic.com
    youtube.no-cookie.com
    ytimg.com"

    that's why I added ytimg.com and gstatic... but now you're saying I don't need to add those to the whitelist?

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    magdiel1975

    Also.. I had to add snapchat.com because it was being clocked and calssified as social media, texting, etc. So once I added that domain, I was able to pull www.snapchat.com, but not the app on the android devices.. Same as Youtube.. Youtube was being able to pull on the computers not on the smart devices, eventhough I had youtube.com and google.com added to the whitelist..so this means the snapchat and youtube apps must be listed on another categoy different than were the google and youtube are..no?

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    rotblitz

    "If you read a few posts back, you wrote:..."

    Agreed.  It should read that those domains and their subdomains must *not* be blocked by your dashboard settings to make YouTube and Google work.

    "that's why I added ytimg.com and gstatic... but now you're saying I don't need to add those to the whitelist?"

    Generally, only domains need to be whitelisted which are actually blocked by your OpenDNS settings. These blocked domains are the ones appearing under https://dashboard.opendns.com/stats/all/blockeddomains at some stage.

    If they are not blocked by OpenDNS (but maybe by something else), there is no way to whitelist them with OpenDNS.

    "I am not sure which one of those was the one that unblocked the Youtube app"

    You would have clearly seen under https://dashboard.opendns.com/stats/all/blockeddomains

    "so this means the snapchat and youtube apps must be listed on another categoy different than were the google and youtube are..no?"

    No.  Apps are not listed in OpenDNS domain categories, because apps are not domain names.  However, website providers definitely host content on different domains, depending on if this is for a browser or a smartphone app.
    No matter, also those would appear under https://dashboard.opendns.com/stats/all/blockeddomains where you could take the needed information from.

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    magdiel1975

    great.. thank you rotblitz. I will definitely play with those domains and remove the unecessary ones.

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    magdiel1975

    Ok.. so it seems I need to leave youtube.com on the "never block" list for Youtube to open properly. It opens but it looks very weird like there are no pictures or anything is just words. Even after waiting more than 15 minutes. 

    "You would have clearly seen under https://dashboard.opendns.com/stats/all/blockeddomains"

    Well, It's not that clear because most of the domains listed in there say "search engines".. so that means that the websites being blocked are being categorized as "search engines", making it not as clearly as you put it :).  For instance the domain that was blocking the Android youtube app was categorized as search engine.

    Also, there are domains being blocked that say social media, but I am not filtering anything other than search engines..that's the only category selected in my settings..nothing else... I just got to keep playing with this until I find all the categories (search engines) that are really NOT search engines and whitelist them.

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    magdiel1975

    I removed most of the ones you said from the "never block".. now, youtube does not open and it is being classified as Video Sharing which I did NOT select to be blocked..

     As you can see.. "search engines" is the only one on this list.. This is the most crazy thing I've ever seen.. why is opendns blocking youtube when I have not selected video sharing to be blocked?




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    magdiel1975

    This is how I said youtube looks after adding youtube.com to "never block"

    So this means that another domain needs to be added besides youtube.com in order to have access to the full site.




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    magdiel1975

    sorry.. this is the picture of how youyube's page looks.

     




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    magdiel1975

    OK.. so after a few hours of testing..

    @Rotblitz 

    "Also no need to add youtube.no-cookie.com, ytimg.com, gstatic.com, because these do not belong to any category, so cannot be blocked by category and do not need to be unblocked"

    Per my tests.. these need to be added to the "never block" list:

     

    youtube.com -  (because it is blocked as video sharing) - however does not impact the YouTube app on smart devices, it just blocks computer access to the website.

     ytimg.com

    googleapis.com

     

    If only ytimg.com is added to the list, then YouTube only works fully on computer, but partially on the app, whereas BOTH are needed for the YouTube app to fully work on smart devices.

    I have tested this fully many times just to make sure.

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    magdiel1975

    Forgot to add gmail.com to the never block list because it was being blocked as "web mail"

    I could go into mail.google.com and check my mail...but If I went directly to www.gmail.com, it would be blocked... once I added it to the never block list, I had no more issues.

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    rotblitz

    "I need to leave youtube.com on the "never block" list for Youtube to open properly. It opens but it looks very weird like there are no pictures or anything is just words."

    Exactly this is a clear indication that it is not youtube.com needed whitelisting, but another domain where the images and CSS/JS are hosted on and which is categorized as Search Engines.

    "Well, It's not that clear because most of the domains listed in there say "search engines".."

    Exactly this makes it clear and shows that you have only the category Search Engines blocked.  These are the domains to be whitelisted, as long as they are used by YouTube.  It is the latter which makes it difficult to determine.  Therefore you had to run a sniffer to see in real-time what domains are actually being used by YouTube.

    "Also, there are domains being blocked that say social media, but I am not filtering anything other than search engines.."

    Then check at https://domain.opendns.com/domainname if it is really not also categorized as Search Engines.  It most likely is.  Else you may have a different problem as follows:

    "youtube does not open and it is being classified as Video Sharing which I did NOT select to be blocked.."

    Then you didn't use your settings at this point of time, but someone else's settings.  Your youtubeblocked.JPG clearly shows that youtube.com or www.youtube.com was in the blacklist (always blocked) being used at this time.

    "So this means that another domain needs to be added besides youtube.com in order to have access to the full site."

    Yes, as said all the time before, you must whitelist all domains being categorized as Search Engines and being used by YouTube.

    "Forgot to add gmail.com to the never block list because it was being blocked as "web mail""

    And did it work then?

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    rotblitz

    Well, I have taken a DNS query sniffer trace while navigating within YouTube inc logging into it for a while, see attached.  You can see many domains being used by YouTube.  Beside the Host Name column see also the CNAME column.

    I leave it with you to check at https://domain.opendns.com/domainname what of those domain names belong to the Search Engines category.  Exactly these are the ones you must whitelist if you have only this one category blocked.  Think about, you do not need to whitelist the full domain name, e.g. googlevideo.com includes all subdomains like r1---sn-4g57knle.googlevideo.com or r16---sn-4g57knz6.googlevideo.com.

    And as I said before, there may be different or additional domains involved if using a YouTube app on a smart device.  My trace was from a Windows PC using FireFox.




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    magdiel1975

    "And did it work then?"

    Yes, once I added gmail.com to never block I can go directly to www.gmail.com, whereas before it would be blocked.

    My trace was from a Windows PC using FireFox.

    I was using Chrome and Firefox to make sure

     

    It seems that blocking search engines causes more problems than I thought.. now the wife is complaining she is getting blocked out of websites she would normally go that have nothing to do search engines.. things like Miightytext which is a plggin to Chrome/Firefox which let's you send/receive text through your computer's browser, but it is being blocked. Now I have to do some more investigatin to see why is being blocked.

    This is beggining to be more of a hassle than anything else... haha.

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    magdiel1975

    The hard part is to determine which of those domains listed on the https://domain.opendns.com/domainname is the one blocking the sites.

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    magdiel1975

    a bit more complicated now because, a stie is being blocked but it's not calssified as any category, so I don't know which domain to whitelist.. I just get this..

     

     




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    oooomm

    Yes i'm also having the same issue with youtube being blocked after search engines is checked off. I will try to follow the instructions of this forum to resolve my issue. However, google is doing a very poor job and why it makes things so complicated is beyond comprehensible to me. I would seem to make sense to integrate DNS resolution within a search engine, for the very reason that the content being given by the search engine (google) is more and more questionable. The people who make a business shoving prostitution down your throat have figured out how to manipulated the search engines (by producing millions of links, etc, etc) and why isn't this being resolved on a larger scale? This is straight up propaganda and people are being exploited, including the everyday CPU user. Google images is a joke. OpenDNS is helping people but this is getting out of hand. The internet is being flooded on purpose with garbage and the search engines are failing to filter this effectively. If OpenDNS was integrated into a search engine I would be the first to sign up. Google is going into the toilet. 

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    magdiel1975

    for YouTube

    add to never block list:

     

    ytimg.com

    googleapis.com

    youtube.com

     

    then wait about 10-15 minutes even though it says it takes 3 minutes

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    magdiel1975

    @rotblitz

    why do I get listing of the domains I have whitelisted when I go to https://domain.opendns.com/domainname?

    I mean, if they are whitelisted, doesn't it mean they are no longer blocked?.. so, why do they even show up if I choose to show "only requests that were blocked"?

    Yes, I know if I click on the domain it tells me this domain is no longer blocked, but my opinion is it shouldn't even show up.

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    magdiel1975

    Ok.. I give up. I cannot use the "Search engines" filtering option because it's just blocks way too many other websites that are really NOT search engines and is just causing too many issues here at home.. the wife is not happy as she is a blogger and needs access to all her sites...what a pain in the rear this is...If only OpenDns would just block actual search engines instead of everything that "might" be a search engine.

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    maintenance

    then wait about 10-15 minutes even though it says it takes 3 minutes

    It could potentially be taking a little longer than usual, but generally not when you flush your browser and local resolver caches after a change.

    I mean, if they are whitelisted, doesn't it mean they are no longer blocked?.. so, why do they even show up if I choose to show "only requests that were blocked"?

    Stats are not real time. Time between your two posts was just under two hours. Don't expect them to update that quickly.

    ..If only OpenDns would just block actual search engines instead of everything that "might" be a search engine.

    Not how it works. It isn't the fault of OpenDNS or anyone else that a search engine chooses to make all sorts of other content dependent on their search domain names. DNS can only work with domain names, not content or anything else. But considering everything I've seen here, it looks like far more than "search engines" is blocked with your filtering. If you found youtube.com or many of those other domains to be blocked, it was not by the search engines category.

     

     

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    magdiel1975

    "If you found youtube.com or many of those other domains to be blocked, it was not by the search engines category"

    Yes it was because as soon as removed "search engines" to be filtered I had no other issues with ANY domains.

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    mattwilson9090

    If you think a domain has been improperly classified you can always request a review of the domain and suggest a reclassification to a more accurate category. You can do so from the same page you get the results of how a domain is classified.

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    magdiel1975

    yeah thanks.. but it's a bit more complicated than that. For example, there's a plugin for Chrome called Mightytext which you can send/received text messages from your phone, but can do so on your computer..meaning you don't need the phone to send/receive msgs. If search engines is selected, that plugin stops working altogether and I cannot find which domain is resposible for blocking that plugin. The plugin start working again once I unselect search engines, so the issue is finding which domain is the right one to sugges a reclassification... for now, what i have done is just black list the most popular search engines I know of. 

    I know i only get 25 domain I can blacklist, but that's what I can do at this point to avoid having all the issues "search engines" filter is creating.

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    rotblitz

    "a bit more complicated now because, a site is being blocked but it's not classified as any category, so I don't know which domain to whitelist.. I just get this..

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    This is an easy one to explain.  Didn't I say that you also have to consider the CNAMEs?  www.alittleumbrella.com is only an alias for the real name ghs.l.google.com.  Another alias is ghs.google.com.  Therefore it is definitely blocked when you blocked the category Search Engines, but don't have one of google.com, l.google.com, ghs.l.google.com or ghs.google.com in your whitelist.

    nslookup www.alittleumbrella.com.
    Server:  resolver2.opendns.com
    Address:  208.67.220.220

    Nicht autorisierte Antwort:
    Name:    ghs.l.google.com
    Address:  74.125.136.121
    Aliases:  www.alittleumbrella.com, ghs.google.com

    The bad thing is that you cannot check this with https://domain.opendns.com/www.alittleumbrella.com, because in case of the www subdomain, OpenDNS redirects this to https://domain.opendns.com/alittleumbrella.com, else this information would show up.  You have only the chance to find this out while running the above mentioned DNS query sniffer or with executing the above nslookup command.

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    rotblitz

    And another bad thing is that ghs.l.google.com and ghs.google.com are not categorized as Search Engines but as Content Delivery Networks, so I don't know why these would be blocked if only the Search Engines category is selected unless it is an OpenDNS glitch where categories are inherited in the wrong way.  Worth to raise a support ticket...

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