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    rotblitz

    What does http://welcome.opendns.com/ show up with?

    If you're using OpenDNS, is your IP address information correctly registered with OpenDNS?
    https://dashboard.opendns.com/settings/

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    Ashley Williams

    Additionally, YouTube has an extremely high TTL, meaning that it will be cached on your computer longer than some other sites. If the tests that rotblitz provided work, but you're still unable to reach YouTube, please try clearing your cache, as shown here: https://support.opendns.com/entries/26336865, and see if you can still reach YouTube. 

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    timmsy
    Hello,

    Thank you for your reply.

    Having visited http://welcome.opendns.com I can confirm that the iPads are using OpenDNS and that Safari's access on the pads to YouTube is blocked, but not the apps which retain full access.

    Kindest regards,

    Dave Fowler-Timms
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    rotblitz

    Then the iPad apps seem to disregard your DNS configuration but may use their own, or the apps use different domains not being blocked by your settings..

    See https://dashboard.opendns.com/stats/all/topdomains to possibly find the domains.

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    timmsy
    Hi,

    Thank you for your reply.

    I hope this is not the case but your message reads as though you are seeking to wash your hands of this issue.

    There are no settings made on the iPads that would otherwise affect their using OpenDNS.

    My OpenDNS settings are almost the default.. Video Sharing sites are blocked but 'accounts.youtube.com' is whitelisted as other Google services use it for authentication.

    It appears to me that the iPad YouTube app seeks different IP addresses to the Android YouTube app and these have not been identified by OpenDNS admins as needing blocking.

    Please could you investigate this?

    You direct me to your "topdomains" URL but surely, any domains identified there would already be blocked by OpenDNS's Video Sharing blocking by default, making this a mute exercise??

    Many thanks,

    Dave Fowler-Timms
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    rotblitz

    "as though you are seeking to wash your hands of this issue."

    Why should I?  I as OpenDNS user like you do care about dirty hands in no way... ;-)
    I just use extensively my freedom of speach right.

    "There are no settings made on the iPads that would otherwise affect their using OpenDNS."

    How can you know what default settings are used by those apps?  Are you a prophet, or an app developer?

    "It appears to me that the iPad YouTube app seeks different IP addresses to the Android YouTube app"

    This would be irrelevant.  If IP addresses are being used, then nothing goes through OpenDNS, so no way to block anything by OpenDNS.  If you mean "domain names" by "IP addresses", then you are most likely right.

    "and these have not been identified by OpenDNS admins as needing blocking."

    LOL:  This is not how this is supposed to work.  Domain tagging is a community effort with OpenDNS not much involved:
    http://community.opendns.com/domaintagging/faq/

    "Please could you investigate this?"

    What?  I do not have time and not motivation, sorry.  Please do it yourself instead of asking other users like you to do it for you.

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    jvasishtha

    I have the same problem. Youtube App does not get blocked on IPAD. Browser based access to youtube is blocked from IMAC, Laptop, IPAD. Looks like we have to purchase the paid version to get IOS devices to work. 

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    rotblitz

    "Looks like we have to purchase the paid version to get IOS devices to work."

    Why should a paid version of OpenDNS be able to do more?  Just because of money?  There are many things in the world money can't buy.  Didn't know?

    And iOS devices do work.  It's naturally ok that an app behaves as it is supposed to.  This is the purpose of an app, isn't it?  It's not normal if you want to have it blocked.

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    rotblitz

    And if you want to restrict content and apps on iOS devices, you may consider to use the built-in features in addition to OpenDNS.

    http://ipod.about.com/od/KidsiPhoneiPodTouch/f/What-Apps-Can-Iphone-Ipod-Touch-Restrictions-Block.htm
    http://www.bewebsmart.com/ipod-ipad-iphone/two-ios-7-features-parents-will-love/

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    switch_

    Thanks for the link rotblitz.  Just configured my boy's iPad mini using the above iOS7 guide above.

    Struggling with openDNS though.  Running off a router that doesn't allow DNS configuration therefore thought I would do it against my external IP as reported by openDNS and whatsmyip.org, then point the device to the openDNS resolver servers via the IP I set up as my home network. 

    However, despite configuring it like that - then doing hard reset on the device, no joy.  Its not reporting openDNS as being used from http:/welcome.opendns.com, so I thought it might be cached - cleared down cache and tried again, same response.  Then tried internetbadguys.com which definitely wasn't cached..... And got the demonstration site response, so for sure it's not running the way it should!

    I know it's bad form to hijack another thread but the title carries for my problem too....?

    Any help would be appreciated, as openDNs

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    switch_

    Thanks for the link rotblitz.  Just configured my boy's iPad mini using the above iOS7 guide above.

    Struggling with openDNS though.  Running off a router that doesn't allow DNS configuration therefore thought I would do it against my external IP as reported by openDNS and whatsmyip.org, then point the device to the openDNS resolver servers via the IP I set up as my home network. 

    However, despite configuring it like that - then doing hard reset on the device, no joy.  Its not reporting openDNS as being used from http:/welcome.opendns.com, so I thought it might be cached - cleared down cache and tried again, same response.  Then tried internetbadguys.com which definitely wasn't cached..... And got the demonstration site response, so for sure it's not running the way it should!

    I know it's bad form to hijack another thread but the title carries for my problem too....?

    Any help would be appreciated, as openDNs

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    switch_

    Thanks for the link rotblitz.  Just configured my boy's iPad mini using the above iOS7 guide above.

    Struggling with openDNS though.  Running off a router that doesn't allow DNS configuration therefore thought I would do it against my external IP as reported by openDNS and whatsmyip.org, then point the device to the openDNS resolver servers via the IP I set up as my home network. 

    However, despite configuring it like that - then doing hard reset on the device, no joy.  Its not reporting openDNS as being used from http:/welcome.opendns.com, so I thought it might be cached - cleared down cache and tried again, same response.  Then tried internetbadguys.com which definitely wasn't cached..... And got the demonstration site response, so for sure it's not running the way it should!

    I know it's bad form to hijack another thread but the title carries for my problem too....?

    Any help would be appreciated, as openDNs

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    switch_

    is a better way of restricting access....

    Don't know why it posted three times either.

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    rotblitz

    "Running off a router that doesn't allow DNS configuration"

    Then you must configure the OpenDNS resolver addresses on the related end user devices, else everything else is fruitless.
    https://store.opendns.com/setup/computer

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    hermankikkert

    Check out this topic: https://support.opendns.com/entries/30128744-YouTube-app-not-being-blocked-on-iPads

    The answer seems to be provided there by robvb.

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    dustrun
    Youtube and all Google apps on Mobile devices and PC use google's DNS 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 the best way I block it is to block access to google's DNS servers in the router settings.
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    rotblitz

    "Youtube and all Google apps on Mobile devices and PC use google's DNS 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4"

    Interesting!  Where did you find this out from?  Or did you measure it yourself in some way?

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    Alexander Harrison

    The youtube app will use googlevideo.com and ytimg.l.google.com to load some videos direct from the CDN (content network) and would need to be blocked on your domain list to block the youtube app fully. The app does not use Google's own DNS and will make DNS requests via OpenDNS as long as your network or device is configured as such. 

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    tammyinmo

    Blocking that way doesn't help if you want to allow certain devices access to youtube and have other words blocked that you want no one to access.

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    haf4

    youtube is now blocked for me with this opendns setting (at Moderate level):

    ALWAYS BLOCK:
    googlevideo.com
    l.google.com
    s.ytimg.com
    youtube.com
    youtube.l.google.com
    ytimg.com
    ytimg.l.google.com
    NEVER BLOCK:
    clients6.google.com
    gmail.com
    mail.google.com
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    rotblitz

    YouTube is definitely blocked now, and also most parts of Google, Google Webmail and other Google services.  And, btw, this is totally unrelated to the category level you have selected.  You even could set it to 'None', and the mentioned services would still be blocked.

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    mattwilson9090

    @haf4 You have a little redundancy in this list.

    youtube.l.google.com and ytimg.l.google.com are both subdomains of l.google.com, so by blocking l.google.com you are blocking them as well.

    Likewise s.ytimg.com is a subdomain of ytimg.com

       
       
       
       
       
       
     
       
       
       
       
       
       
     

     

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    haf4

    thanks rotblitz and mattwilson9090 for ur feedbacks

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    cspanring

    Ironically, Google also gives you some information on how to go about blocking YouTube:

    https://support.google.com/a/answer/6214622

     

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