NETGEAR Live Parental Controls Configure without NETGEAR genie app

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    rotblitz

    "without NETGEAR genie app"

    As far as I can see from https://kb.netgear.com/25687/, LPC can be configured with the Genie app only.  Whatever, login to the router's web interface at http://www.routerlogin.net or http://www.routerlogin.com to see if there is an option to enable LPC.

    If not, instead of using LPC, you can definitely use OpenDNS Home.
    See https://support.opendns.com/hc/en-us/articles/228007787

    "I want to manually set one device only"

    Then you shouldn't configure OpenDNS on the router, because it would affect all devices.  Instead you configure OpenDNS on this one device, as described here:
    https://support.opendns.com/hc/en-us/categories/204012907

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    Sleeepy2

    @rotblitz thanks for the quick response.

    My specific use case is that I am using Pi-Hole (https://pi-hole.net/) as the Main DNS provider as it blocks adds. I would then set the LPC DNS as the Pi-Hole secondary DNS which would block the "bad" websites for my kids.

    In the Pi-Hole I can just set the secondary DNS to 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220 which would be the standard OpenDNS home setting which would work, I just don't really know what benefits of LPC are that I would then lose.

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    rotblitz

    Not sure what this pi-hole.net is, but if it is a recursive DNS service, then nope, this is not how it can work.  Never mix different recursive DNS services which have specific filtering options, else you will clearly get inconsistent and random results, sometimes from this and another time from that DNS service.

    Also, there is no LPC DNS.  This is OpenDNS, in contrast to Netgear LPC.

    However, if this pi-hole.net is not a recursive DNS service, then you can proceed as I have explained above.

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    Sleeepy2

    I am not 100% sure what a recursive DNS service is however I believe that is exactly what pi-hole does and it is specifically designed to do exactly this.

    Install pi-hole on a Linux device, and select an upstream DNS service such as goolge, cloud fair, open dns, etc. or enter in your own such as your ISP's dns settings.

    Set your router or individual device to use the Linux device as your DNS server. Your device or router will connect to the pi-hole to block adds and then the pi-hole will go out to your other configured dns server. Your router or device will only get the info from the pi-hole and your upstream dns will only see requests from the pi-hole.

    Now in my netgear router, when I turn on parental controls it has to set a DNS of some sort, I was trying to find out what it was so that I can manually set it as my upstream dns service. I am sure I could use wireshark or something to figure it out. But I can just set the DNS settings as you have indicated above.

    I just don't know what features I lose doing this and not Netgear LPC. If I loose needed features it doesn't make any sense for me to even configure and use the pi-hole device.

     

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    rotblitz (Edited )

    "I was trying to find out what it was so that I can manually set it as my upstream dns service."

    The available DNS resolver addresses for all services (no matter if Netgear LPC, Umbrella or OpenDNS) are:
    208.67.222.222   208.67.220.220   208.67.220.222   208.67.222.220

    "I am not 100% sure what a recursive DNS service is however I believe that is exactly what pi-hole does and it is specifically designed to do exactly this."

    A recursive DNS service is a service which answers the DNS queries out of your networking applications.  I did not get the impression that pi-hole.net provides an own recursive DNS service.  It looks like they rely on and forward everything to the DNS service you configure as forwarder DNS in Pi-Hole, as you said: "select an upstream DNS service such as goolge, cloud fair, open dns, etc. or enter in your own such as your ISP's dns settings... Your device or router will connect to the pi-hole to block adds and then the pi-hole will go out to your other configured dns server".

    So summarizing, Pi-Hole is not a recursive DNS service and doesn't provide such an own recursive DNS service.  Therefore it can be used together with any believable DNS service, exactly as I said above.

    "I just don't know what features I lose doing this and not Netgear LPC. If I loose needed features it doesn't make any sense for me to even configure and use the pi-hole device."

    What features you know could you lose and why?  What features are needed?  If you don't know, why not simply test it out?  Or ask at the Pi-Hole site?  This forum is for Cisco/OpenDNS services, not for Pi-Hole or other stuff.

    All your questions should have been answered at this point.

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